28 – Burnout

In this week’s episode, James and Ezra dig into the topic of burnout. With everyone around us overworking and losing to stress, is it time for you to take a break before exhaustion takes control of your life and your business?


Are you experiencing burnout?


Podcast highlights:

01:35 – What is burnout and what causes it?
03:36 – Is it better to keep going than to take a break?
04:55 – Change the THINKing behind your ACTion if you’re GETting burned out
06:45 – Watch out for the warning signs
08:40 – Mindset definitely matters
10:00 – Reset your M.O.
11:37 – What you NEED vs. what you WANT
12:30 – An exclusive recording in Ezra’s blog
13:04 – Insanely Simple: Focus on less and beat complexity
16:55 – Can “burnout” be beneficial?
18:20 – The story behind James’ leap to Internet marketing
24:56 – Ezra’s takeaways
26:34 – One secret to avoid burning out
28:41 – Working on your own terms
30:08 – WWW: Stop, slow down and pay yourself first
32:06 – James’ Daring Weekly Willpower Challenge
32:52 – News and Updates
34:54 – Use our sites for basis but make sure to customize your own
38:19 – New services and new layouts
39:06 – Listener Comments
45:05 – Tao Te Ching and The Art Of War
54:55 – Think About It
62:54 – Episode summary



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  1. Kath Cotrell says

    I really appreciate that the website has each episode indexed. That makes it so easy to go back whenever I want to refresh my memory on a particular segment. Thank you for that.

    Thoughts on the logo: on iTunes it is reminiscent of a beer bottle label, which I like, though the colors could be brighter. The logo on the website looks like a racetrack – coincidence, James? 😉

    I like the woman’s spiel in the intro. It’s calm, matter of fact, sums up and sets the tone for the podcast. I say keep it!

  2. Definitely interested in hearing your Mom on networking, James.

  3. Am I in sync with TAG, or is TAG in sync with me? So glad I took the time to listen to this episode. My mantra was “Go Hard or Go Home” for too many years. So many takeaways way beyond “Burn Out”, which I experienced a few and feel like I never came out of the last one. Time to do less and “Go Smart”. Thank you so much guys!

  4. Volker Ritzka says


    here is another situation I found can cause burnout.


    As Peter Thiel, cofounder of PayPal, described in a talk at Pandadaily, it has great psychological problems when people fail.

    Most people says that entrepreneurs have to fail. and you have to try again.

    But people like Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk or Donald Trump did not fail. They created amazingly huge companies on first try.

    Failure can rob you of energy and the will to go on, especially when you fail at ‘smaller’ projects.

    Of course, you still have to keep going.

    • Volker I agree. Jason Fried from 37 signals has a top post about not needing to fail. Sleeping in a van or on the streets is not a Pre-requisite for success contrary to popular thought….

  5. Amy Boehnert says

    Hi James and Ezra!

    This is my favorite episode so far! Great job, guys!! I loved the message, and I truly enjoyed all the stories and colorful details. ( I laughed out loud when James said, “Some greedy mo’ fo’ put energy drink ads at my event.” It was priceless!)

    I have been reading a ton of Emmet Fox over the past week, and find his tiny book, “The Mental Equivalent” to be spot on for training my mind, which has helped me to steer away from the burnout mentality. But I would LOVE to hear more about mind management. Can anyone else hear Ezra say, “THINK about it”:) ??

    Thank you again for putting out podcasts that are so compelling, I literally listen to them over and over!



  6. Thank you so much Amy

  7. Chris Mountford says

    On “Tao Te Ching” and “The Art of War”. If you like these, I recommend “The Book of Five Rings” written by Samurai master Miyamoto Musashi in 1645. Like The Art of War it collects military wisdom but is broadly applicable.

    Protip: Taoism is pronounced “DOW-izm”.

    Having learned a bit about Taoism and Zen Buddhism, I think T.A.G. contains similar wisdom.

    A really fun book about it is called “The Tao of Pooh” by Benjamin Hoff. It’s also about Winnie the Pooh which, it turns out, is pretty much the same thing.

    “Rabbit’s clever,” said Pooh thoughtfully.
    “Yes,” said Piglet, “Rabbit’s clever.”
    “And he has Brain.”
    “Yes,” said Piglet, “Rabbit has Brain.”
    There was a long silence.
    “I suppose,” said Pooh, “that that’s why he never understands anything.”
    ― Benjamin Hoff, The Tao of Pooh

    Also, a little blog I have with my brother was named after a central piece of Sun Tzu wisdom that James often refers to. “Strong Like Water”.

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